Monday, November 03, 2008

The US Elections are TOMORROW!

They are getting underway in certain parts of the states in less than 24hours.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I had a friend email from the states today saying:

"Have you been able to follow the elections from New Zealand? It's looking like tomorrows day at the polls is going to be very close, and it may be an election like the last one where we don't know the outcome for another couple months."

That is interesting to hear because the majority of the time hear in New Zealand it sounds like all the stats favor Obama at this point.

I am not that political as most of you might know by my thought today on the two candidates was this:

I have been thinking about the next president based on what the country needs and the current debacle the US is in, but the one other thing to consider is

Who best fits what the US stands for?

This is where i think my political opinions differ from a lot of people because this is usually my driving force where most of the conversations seem to be more focused on fixing the crisis at hand and what the US needs to do to just benefit the one who is stating their opinion.
That is all i got for now.

Happy prayerful voting in the states!!! Please keep me updated.


Rhett said...

Obama for the win!

...The depressing cloud of George W. Bush that has hung around for 8 years is finally lifting! Woohoo!

Anonymous said...

That is interesting to hear because the majority of the time hear in New Zealand it sounds like all the stats favor Obama at this point.

That is interesting since New Zealand is essentially just reporting what comes out of the U.S in terms of the polls.

To guage where it's going, I've spent most of my time looking at the major U.S news sites and they've all been reporting Obama's lead for some time. Here's a good example from CNN:

It could be argued that the polls are close, but the battle for electoral college votes seems anything but close. Check this out:

That's the one that counts coz as was seen in the election that put George Bush up against Al Gore, getting the most votes amongst the general population doesn't make you President... otherwise Al Gore would have been President... it comes down to the electoral college votes. It'll be interesting to see if the outcome is different from what most polls have been saying.

Who best fits what the US stands for?

I would be genuinely interested in getting your thoughts on that one man. It seems the country is a little divided on what it stands for - what would you say the US stands for? Us people from outside the US generally have our opinion on what we would like to see, but I'd love to hear your perception of what the US is all about.

B said...

Rhett... you are sounding a lot like the national party voting out the labor party in New Zealand right now... things may be perfect, but sometimes i wonder if people are more on a rampage for change... or maybe i am wrong and it is some kind of crazy form of checks and balances for a nation

B said...

I have my opinions, frank, but i decided on this post more to state my thought process rather than my opinion. A post on what the US stands for is quite debatable and would take a bit more time and effort than i had today, but i will try and post something on that tomorrow. I fear that talking politics and taking a side here might burn more bridges and cause me to lose more respect than gain or help.

Anonymous said...

I don't want you to say who you voted for bro. I'm interested in an American perspective on what the US stands for.

Your political views are your political views and anyone who doesn't respect that doesn't get how a democracy works. A healthy democracy encompasses different voices.

Rhett said...

Hey Brent, perhaps "Rampage for change" is a bit strong, but I think you're right that after 2-3 terms of one government, the electorate begins to see change as a positive thing.

In the US it's interesting because President's are limited to two terms. As far as that applying to the US elections, well, I have never been a fan of George W. Bush; and I line up with about 80% of Obama's policies. The only issue I would differ on is abortion, but pragmatically I cannot see that being changed at a presidential level. It will change in the supreme court, and McCain has admitted (in the last debate) he won't "litmus test" the supreme court judges he appoints on Roe v Wade. So, as far as McCain's abortion stance is concerned, I find it to be all hot air.

Rob Bell said something I found interesting. He said he was against abortion. Abortion of innocent babies in the womb, and abortion of innocent civilians in the illegal war in Iraq launched by a Republican president.

My Christian worldview leads me to anti-death and pro life. That is why I am against war, guns, and the death penalty. It's also why if I were American, I couldn't vote Republican.

However, I fully respect Christians and non-Christian Americans who vote Republicans. I don't think voting for ANY political party is the "Christian" way to vote.

Watching the election coverage coming from the States (and I read and watch videos on a variety of sites, from Fox News, to NBC to the Guardian in the UK) I have been disturbed by the divisive character of McCain's campaign. The sense that there are somehow "real Americans" and so logically, also "fake Americans". Sarah Palins assertion that North Virginia used to be "Real America" until it switched to favour Obama is an example of that.

I would love to hear your opinions to on what the US stands for. And I am not asking you to post who you vote for either! :-) I'd love to think that a person could be considered both equally Christian, and equally "American" no matter which way they vote (yes, even for Nader!)

I'll end this long comment (that's what happens when I talk politics!) by using this illustration...

When I was a young kid in South Africa, my friends and I played with toy army men. We would always fight over who got to be the green side, because that was the "USA".

Kids don't fight to be the USA anymore. Bush has damaged the US's standing in the international community immensly. If the Americans elect Obama tomorrow I believe that America's standing will be almost immediately restored. And that's what I mean about the "depressing cloud" of the last 8 years.

I think that those of us outside the US want to look to your country as a source of hope and inspiration. If history is made tomorrow, I reckon we will, again.

BJ said...

"I have my opinions, frank, but i decided on this post more to state my thought process rather than my opinion."

Brent, that was so Frank what you said!